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  • gc_chahiye
    11-02 01:05 PM
    The GC system is entirely in our favor. It really does not benefit America in any significant way.

    nope, if the alternative to the GC system is outsourcing (as you yourself mentioned) all the profits go to big corporations and our salaries are spent in India. The corporations are notorious for avoiding taxes so teh government gets nothing. By making us stay here longer (on H1 or GC) we end up spending our salaries here, paying taxes, paying social security, paying medicare.

    65K H1-Bs earning 70k a year is 4.5 billion dollars. 140K new GC holders each year earning the same comes out to 10 billion dollars. Out of that taxes alone are an easy couple of billion or more dollars. Then take into account the side-effect (we buy cars, we buy appliances, we rent apartments) and the contributions we make to this economy are a lot.

    And to say that we are stealing jobs is also inaccurate. There is nothing called stealing-a-job. In general every job is worth how much someone is willing to be paid to do it. If an American citizen wants 100K and the GC holder wants 90K and the H1-B visa guy wants 80K (and all of them are going to work in the same city and same office) the job is worth 80K. The H1-B visa holder is not stealing a job. The days of knowing HTML tags and commanding a salary of 100K a year (1999-2000) are long gone and now replaced by 'that kind of work gets done in India or Ukraine for 10k a year'. Looking at the resumes we got in response to job ads placed in the last 3 companies I worked for, there are simply not enough qualified americans interested. Thats a fact. So the IT sector needs help from abroad to get the job done. They can either send the work over, or bring the people here. Bringing the people here also benefits the rest of the economy.

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  • yawl
    07-19 02:39 PM
    I am very moved by the efforts of Aman Kapoor. Thank you!

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  • deletedUser459
    06-13 01:02 PM
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  • paskal
    12-13 10:01 PM
    I am not able to start and feel that there is already hidden membership is there. Is there any thuth in this feeling? How does IV is working in terms of access rights?

    IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.

    anyone can start a thread, if you need help doing it, you may wish to ask politely and someone will tell you.

    why so? ask yourself. read your own comments. and let us all know how you have helped the process of ending YOUR retrogression.

    i have reviewed every post you ever put on iv. i don't see any deleted post.
    so you may want to think again. hardly anything is deleted around here. otherwise a lot of intemperate stuff that's posted would disappear.

    ultimately it comes to this: if 25,000 members show no interest in contributing in a fund drive (barring the minuscule 500 who did), what's the point in being "friendly". hey- iv is you and me. there is nothing else. no building, assets, stocks. I or aman or pappu or logiclife and every other core member and iv leader are just like you. we have jobs and families to take care of. we are afflicted by immigration retrogression- like you.
    we have put in time, money and effort at great cost to our personal lives. i wish i could "like you" to that one too.

    if "members" are willing to make this their organization their own- if there is to be this sense of involvement and ownership, then we will succeed. if not, if the attitude for the most is going to be "why should i" and "nope i am not contributing" and "how dare you ask" and "i have free speech" and "why doesn't iv do xyz for me" and "why should logiclife use this and that tenor" and "why did abc say def to me" and "i demand respect" and the best "these are my 2c but don't ask me to lift a finger to do this- iv should do this" then forget it. won't happen. because that IV you are imagining doing wonders and making miracles is YOU.

    let me take this opportunity to thank everyone that participated in the fund drive, joined state chapters, met lawmakers, took initiatives to start state groups, ran the funding threads and contributed in any other way.
    you are guys are true assets to iv- in fact you are the true iv. kudos to you!


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  • glen
    04-18 08:59 AM
    Come-on members who have not contributed at all. Small donation of $25 or $50 will not hurt your pocket. Only if 2000 members contribute $25/- , it will sum upto 50K.

    A small contribution of $50 is nothing, if you care about the cause IV is fighting for. Core members and other senior member are putting their time, money and energy to get relief from this broken EB system. Do your part by making a small donation.

    Please, please come forward. Ask you friends to make small contribution.

    The sad part is:

    About 700-800 out of 3000 have contributed. And they are contributing again and again. Many of them have crossed $500 in personal contributions.

    The other 2200 members have contributed nothing

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  • saurav_4096
    10-09 05:47 PM
    I have a valid H1 approval till 2011 and used AP for my previous india visit. Right now i am transfering my H1 to a new company.
    I asked my lawyer if i was on H1 status or not? She replied, Unitl you use EAD, i will be on H1B Status.

    and also we can transfer our H1 to new company also. thats what i am doing now.

    hope this helps!! and this was the answer from 2 lawyers which i asked.

    Duration for I-94 while entering on AP is same as validity for AP. I am not sure what will happen in the scenario below:
    A person on H1B validity for two years enters US on AP, which was valid for an year. He/She gets I-94 for only one year. in case person do not have any travel plan for next two year, will he be out of status after year as I-94 would have expird after one year and he/she kept working for H1B sponserer for two years.

    Another questuon is Does renewed AP also comes with new I-94, like H1B renewals?


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  • danu2007
    07-14 10:40 PM
    I guess its closed or moved..


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  • gsc999
    07-11 01:26 AM

    Dear Members:

    Immigration Voice is organizing its first peaceful protest rally in San Jose, CA on July 14th in order to protest the broken system of legal high-skills immigration. This protest march is being organized to oppose the enormous visas backlogs in the employment based immigration system. This protest march is also intended to oppose the recent decision of USCIS to block the adjustment of status petitions in July resulting from an unprecedented out-of-order reversal on the part of DOS and USCIS.

    Please join this rally in huge numbers to create more awareness in the Media, Congress and the Administration. We are already getting attention of Congress and the Administration due to recently published articles on the flower campaign in New York Times ( and Washington Post ( on July 11th. If you cannot join but if you know someone who lives in San Jose area and who doesn’t know about this effort, please ask him or her to join this rally. More numbers will get us more media coverage and more attention to this issue.

    This rally has the potential to bring our issue to the attention of everyone, including the Silicon Valley tech employers who have a stake in the morale and productivity of the hi-tech foreign employees in their companies and their backlogged immigration.

    Peaceful protest march by Legal Immigrants in San Jose, CA.

    The New City Hall
    200 E Santa Clara St
    San Jose, CA 95113

    Saturday July 14, 2007

    11:00 am To 2:30 pm


    11:00 AM: Meet at San Jose City Hall at 200 E Santa Clara St.

    PARKING: (Free weekend parking in the 4th St. garage on 44 South Fourth St., & San Fernando St. across from the MLK Jr library; For other free parking areas in downtown San Jose see: ( )

    1) 11:30 AM: Go to the square in front of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Library (150 E San Fernando St).
    2) 12:30 PM: Walk towards 635 N 1st St through S 4th St, E San Carlos St, Market Street and N 1st Street.
    3) 1:15 PM: Arrive at 635 N 1st St and stay till 2:00 PM
    4) 2:30 PM: back to City Hall


    1) Abide by the laws.
    2) Stay on sidewalks.
    3) Follow traffic rules, show courtesy to other pedestrians.
    4) Do not block building entrances.
    5) Dress Professionally. No shorts or Bermudas. Wear formal dress clothes, semi-casual or business-casual.

    Plenty of water, snacks and sun block (if needed).

    Do not bring your own signs. We will have banners and signs ready for you.


    IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: Event leaders or organizers take no responsibility and will not be held responsible for any injuries or accidents that may occur during the posted events. It is your responsibility to abide by law. By joining this event, you are taking responsibility for your own safety and well-being.


    Immigration Voice Core Team.

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  • rajum02
    07-11 11:00 PM
    All- Here is a link from Hammond Law Group, LLC on Immigration Alert.

    Immigration Alert

    July 11, 2007

    Visa Bulletin Mess Update: Rumors and Innuendo

    HLG has confirmed that the CIS is not returning I-485 Applications back to those who filed I-485 during the first week of July. This is leading many to speculate that the CIS may reverse course and re-re-amend the July Visa Bulletin; whether the Visa Bulletin actually reopens remains to be seen. HLG normally refrains from commenting on rumors, but we have talked to several Washington insiders and believe that this is seriously being considered


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  • kubmilegaGC
    09-24 07:39 PM
    I CAN NOT BELIEVE THIS...this morning 10:00AM CST we got the CPO emails for both of us...

    I just can not thank Aall of you enough and the IV community for the support they have provided over the last few years - especially since Sept 1.


    I will be around - not going anywhere and will support IV efforts!

    BEST OF LUCK FOR THOSE WHO ARE WAITING...Believe me "appka bhi number aayega" I was loosing hopes - since Sept 1 when saw number of approvals after my PD/RD/ND etc..but there is really nothing that can predict this system.

    Here is my journey - encapsulated:

    PD- June 04
    I485 files on July 2nd 2007 - NSC
    RD 8/4/2207
    SR #1: 9/4/2209
    SR #2" 9/11/2209
    Senator contact: 9/10/2009 and 9/11/2009
    Infopass: 9/15/2009
    CPO emails: 9/17/2009

    Hang in there - open SRs and contact your senators!!!

    ....and the final step #6 is done - got the physical cards at home today. One long journey comes to an end!!!

    Wishing LUCK for everyone who's still waiting!

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  • tnite
    10-24 01:39 PM
    I'm just keen to find out what's going on, and to get input on whether the I-129 being revoked is anything that can affect the I-140/I-485. I doubt it but would like to be sure. And to share what's going on in my case with others where it may have more of an impact if their H-1B ends up being revoked.

    Anyway, I doubt if it's anything that can't be fixed; my company is very reputable and our attorneys are already engaged.

    You had mentioned in your previous post that your EB2 green card was approved in June 2007or did you mean EAD?
    Am I missing something?


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  • vivekm1309
    09-25 07:24 AM
    Hi Guys

    I have been on IV for last 3 yrs almost & I recall my days when only way to get help on immigration was talking to the lawyers. Since I joined IV this thing defintely changed...& I feel that I am attached to a community trying to achieve a common goal and common good. IV has done a splendid job in getting the community united at the grassroots ....even some of initiators of the group have got their GCs, I still see them involved, which is a great thing. Why blame IV for the legislation failures? Blame congress for it & even 75% of Americans feel Congress is not doing their job.

    Nothing is perfect in life, in market place & in the world. Also sense of purpose of service may differ for everyone & at different times. I treat myself as a consumer of services provided by IV & I have rated the services I get from IV at (Immigration Voice is getting a score of 8.7/10 for the services I get from it) I invite everyone to come and rate Immigration voice.

    Now a brief on, We are positioned as an �Identity & Reputation management� company. You can voice your impressions on People & Companies to begin with through an innovative rating system in the marketplace � which is based on user-generated parameters/attributes and on web 2.0 principles.

    We went into private-beta 10 days ago and I wish to invite you all to join and provide your valuable inputs & feedback. We are in private-beta so use the code PRIVATE (all CAPS) to register. There are currently some 80 odd companies, colleges or schools that are rated by initial users, so you can see the basic analytics piece as well. We are a fully user generated content site, so you might not see much data at this time, but nevertheless see enough data to understand the product.

    The following steps will help you navigate the site easily:

    Invite your community to provide feedback about you.
    Search for people you know, if they are not there, you can create and rate them
    Search for Schools, Colleges or Companies you know, if you don�t find them, you can create and rate them.
    If you don�t find parameters you wish to rate an entity on, please create the parameter and rate the entity on it.
    Connect with your community members and see their activity
    As you contribute your feedback, the entity�s reputation is built and the site provides rich demographically distilled analytics back to users that can help them in researching and making their decisions easily.

    For �people rating�, we are complementary to the Credit Score concept. Our identity is based on our community perception about us, similar to the fact that our credit score is based on our financial habits & capabilities.

    Lastly we are listed as a group on Facebook, Linkedin and Googlegroups as IDNTITI, incase you want to join and have a focused discussion with our community members there.

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  • Legal_In_A_Limbo
    04-27 01:06 PM

    My H1 which was approved back in 2006 has been re-opened today...This is the status I see on USCIS web-site


    Current Status: Case reopened or reconsidered based on USCIS determination, and the case is now pending.

    We reopened this I129 PETITION FOR A NONIMMIGRANT WORKER on April 26, 2009, and are now reviewing our earlier decision. We also mailed you a notice describing the next steps in the process. Please follow any instructions on this notice. Our review should be completed within 30 days. We will notify you by mail when we make a decision or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, call customer service.

    I have used AC-21 and been working with new employer on EAD since April, 2008. I talked to my old employer and they said they have sent a request to withdraw my H-1B and all other immigration applications. So, I am assuming that they have also withdrawn 140. He also said when someone leaves the company its a normal process to withdraw all the immigration related documents.

    Can you please tell me, what will happen to my cases. If someone has gone through the same, if they can share their experiece that will be really appreciated.


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  • smisachu
    07-30 11:47 AM
    You can trade commodities like stocks by taking a directional bet on long term price movement. But this is what you need to consider. Stocks always trade in Spot. If you buy MSFT you own shares of Microsoft today. Although single stock futures (SSF) are available now we will not look at derivatives right now.

    Commodities are traded as futures. You can buy Soy futures today for December delivery or lean hogs for dec 2010 delivery.
    Under conditions of No-Arbitrage the price of the future will be the price of the spot plus storage and delivery costs. If for example 3 month LSC (Light Sweet crude) is trading on NYMEX at $60; the cost of storage and delivery is say $20 for 3 months. Then 6 month LSC should be trading at $80. But if you look at the contract it might be trading at $55.

    The reason being fundamentals. The peak driving season or the hurricane season is over and heating oil season is not yet on us or by looking at weather derivatives traders are factoring in milder winter. The leader of Iran has declared he will step down from office and retire to Hawaii, the rebels in Nigeria have turned themselves in and joined a church missionary..stuff like that.

    So you might believe these fundamental assumptions or you might do your own research and say that the traders are wrong and they are discounting critical factors and the price should be more. So you can go long the future and hope for an increase in price and sell the future before delivery for a profit. This is the expensive route but you will never be wiped out for sure. Price of crude may drop but will never go to zero.

    Or you trade options on the futures, for example:
    Borrow money (leverage) buy the call; short delta units of the future contract and invest the proceeds at the risk free rate.
    If you are correct the call will end up in the money, the shorted futures will loose value but since it is “delta” units it is only a portion of the position and the invested money will earn you the risk free rate. So you make some money on the call and loose some on the hedge and net you will profit. (Hopefully to cover the transaction costs and taxes)

    If you are wrong (price falls) your call will expire worth less so you are wiped out there, your short will increase in value and you will still earn the risk free rate. So although net you will loose money it will not be as much as a naked call because of delta hedging.

    This is explained in very very simple terms. Each transaction step will indicate modeling prices to know if the future is priced correctly, if the option is priced correctly and if the leverage you are getting is correct. Plus modeling future price movements and expected rate of returns and the most primary thing in any transaction the “Alpha”. Source of alpha should be very clearly defined. Let me go a bit deep and include some simple math:

    E[R] = Alpha + betaR + epsalon

    Where E[R] is the expected return-(see statists for more on expectation functions.)
    alphais the excess return
    betaR is market return or what the price of the commodity does in the duration chosen. (Market betais 1)
    epsalonis error term or un explained return.

    (Sorry the greek symbols did not display so I wrote words)

    This is a kindergarten model of modeling your alpha. As there are many variables you will use a multi variant model to figure out return. Plus as I said in my previous post you have to model jumps. Jumps are spikes of very short duration which will only be seen in a log normal price distribution. A Gaussian distribution might not be changed much because of a spike of small duration. For example if you are trading electricity and the temperature in NJ hits 110 degrees, there is going to be a spike on that day for electricity prices but this will fall as soon as temperature falls.

    And the core issue of all is you need to have access to products as indicated by puddonhead plus money and leverage capacity and risk bearing capacity. As you see this is not for the faint of heart or for some one to do part time. If you are really sophisticated and can do this with good resources, fine or else my advice is stick to stocks or stock derivatives. Hedge funds have teams of quants and super computers sitting and doing this every day. They will vacuum out even the slightest of alpha out there; they will simply take your money if you enter into a wrong trade. If someone is a quant and does this for a living then if his contract allows it or if his licensing allows it legally he can do it on the side but apart from it definitely not something the retail investor should indulge in. Just invest in some ETF like GLD or USO or some commodity mutual funds at the max.

    Best of luck!!

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  • axp817
    03-31 08:39 AM
    So do you think they are going after AC21 folks as a scapegoat? I spoke to few people on this including lawyers and they say that "denials on 485" when 140 gets revoked is a common thing and usually the officer who issues the denial letter does not check and verify to see other details. Thats why they have to go through the MTR process.

    Although, UN seems to suspect that there might be more beneath the surface here.

    What still beats me is that if the 140 had problems, why would they even bother requesting for AC21 evidence and not just deny the 485 in the first place.

    Unless..., when the 140 got revoked they realized that it had been more than a 180 days since the 485 was filed, and gave the applicant the benefit of doubt and asked for a new EVL, but while the applicant was in the process of replying to the NOID, they did some more digging, found that the underlying approved 140 had ability to pay (or other) issues and then denied the 485 on that basis.

    You seem to be 'in the know' about this case/applicant, do you happen to know what the next steps are/would be/should be in this particular case?



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  • arsh007
    02-01 06:19 PM
    I have worked for some of the big Indian IT companies including HCL Technologies and Satyam and can tell you all that these companies are the most screwed up companies in terms of bringing in H1 and L1s from India and paying them peanuts for salaries. For example Satyam and TCS here in St Louis have a large outsourcing deal with Citigroup. There are about 50-60 Satyam Engineers here on H1 and L1 visas being paid around $45,000 per month+Benefits which is just about the Labor prevailing wage in this area.

    Talk about rotten Desi companies and even the bigger players are not far behind in trying to suppress wages for Engineers and bending rules in lots of instances to bring in a flood of L1s/H1s from India to work on onsite projects.

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  • chanduv23
    07-02 02:56 PM
    I am not sure what happened to them. I just saw the list.

    Yes many employer will open a new company but given a choice to follow the law or open a new company and start from scratch; I am sure most will follow the law. Also how many new companies will they open. If everybody files a complaint every time someone is exploited the employer will have to either stop exploiting or stop doing business.

    Just because your employer is willing to steal your money does not mean you let them do it. Just because a person is ready to make you a slave does not mean you should become a slave. Let them do what they want to do, we all should do what is right and what we have to do.

    I am not contradicting you but just guaging the effect on employers. I aggree that if complaints keep pouring in, the equation changes. But as of now, I see only a few employers on that website and they have just been barred for few years

    05-14 10:46 AM

    I am afraid you are being naive here. What the OP is saying is

    (1) We should all go back to our home land, because he has some opinions and positions on what is considered turning back to home land. You might not see it but he is trying to shape opinion of others very intelligently. Who says this? Some one who does not want competition here. Well, if this was coming from some one who is in India I will give him props. He is in US for 10 years and he is saying US GC system sucks and I will go to canada in 2 years. Damn it! I am better than him because I will go to India and not canada. I will stop short of saying that every one should go back to India or his/her homeland.

    (2) We all have no right to talk because this is not our country. or We are not in our country and we should not talk. Who says this? Again folks who dont want people here.

    (3) Even if I give him the benefit of doubt on other issues, he thinks country caps are OK. Any one who argues for country caps in EB GC with out asking for a country caps in F1/H1B which server as conduit to H1B actually wants the disadvantage to lot of people to his advantage.

    Just dont read the words as it is. try to infer some thing. These days trolls have got too much brains.

    Mr President :-)

    I agree with you on some aspects , I just didn't like the way ganguteli got flared up.
    I believe , nitin has the right to voice his opinion (many people would agree with him, many would disagree). But there is no need to fight like illiterate people. If someone doesn't agree , he should say i don't agree, and this is what i believe in.

    I like US very much , i am here for around 5 years , and i believe the GC system really sucks (don't you ?)But i have some commitments in India , and if i don't get a GC in 1-2 years i will go back. All my college batch mates in India are managers now , and i am still a developer. I cant take a better job , because i don't have a GC, and with EB3 India, by the time i will get a GC, i would be about to retire :-)

    So everyone would have a different perspective, and different opinions.

    12-02 09:57 PM
    As some one suggested ads are good source, I think the local state chapters should encourage members to donate/ join for recrurring contributions.

    I just contributed $300. I will sign up for recurring ...

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    Contributions so far: $500
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