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  • vbkris77
    03-10 10:39 PM
    As I thought about this further, I figured out the data is even worse than I thought earlier, as this may not have any 2007 numbers. People who filed their labors in 2007 were still waiting in july of 2007. So this data is only upto late 2006. Now the figures could be

    5000 2001
    20000 2002
    20000 2003
    20000 2004
    5000 2005
    5000 2006

    10000 2004
    30000 2005
    30000 2006

    Check your Calculations, Per PDF, only 51K EB2 are pending till July 2007.

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  • rsaimadhukar
    06-18 04:56 PM
    called all the reps and also updated the poll.

    will pass on this msg to friends outside IV too.

    hope for the best

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  • mirage
    08-12 07:03 PM
    more than 200 people have taken this poll, if only half of us send these letters, it could make a difference..

    To, 08/05/2008

    Charles Oppenheim / Visa Section
    U.S. Department of State
    2201 C Street NW
    Washington, DC 20520


    Your Name/Your Address/EB-3 India Applicant
    Priority Date: May 2003
    Some City,

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Sub: Statistics on Employment Based AOS(Adjustment of Status) applications pending at USCIS under various categories

    I am writing to you to express my sense of helplessness over the unpredictability of Visa Number allotment to various employment based category. I want to bring to your attention that it�s been nearly a �Decade� since we saw any meaningful Visa Date movement from year 2001 for EB-3 Green Card applicants from India.

    It is important to know that despite of severe visa retrogression and random visa cutoff date movements, USICIS or DOS hasn�t released any official information on how many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS under various categories which leaves thousands of AOS(Adjustment of Status) applicants in complete darkness and dependent on guessing games by various Law firms.

    A green card application requires enormous amount of efforts and money from the beneficiary and his/her employer. People who are waiting for 7-8 years now would have had already spent average $15,000-$20,000, in maintaining their statuses and keep the Green Card process going on. Being stuck in a green card process keeps us bonded with 1 employer, job type etc.
    We need to know if there is any light at the end of the tunnel. We need to know for how long we have to live our life in limbo. If there is hope than we need to be patient and plan to live like that for another 1-2 years. But if there�s no light at the end of the tunnel than we need to move on with our careers and other family commitments. Only your office and USCIS can help us by releasing statistics on the number and categories of applications pending with USCIS people waiting in this category can plan their lives accordingly.

    It will be a great help if DOS or USCIS could tell us about the number of AOS application pending at USCIS along with their Categories(EB-3, EB-2, EB-1) and chargeable country.
    We have been waiting for a decade and continue to wait would it be reasonable to request you for some guidance with regards to the Visa allotment. I request your office to provide some statistics on home many Adjustment of Status applications are pending at USCIS.

    We understand that you work with in the limits of the law as set by the Congress and are limited by various constraints that are beyond your agency realm of work. We appreciate your hard work and sincerely thank you for all the hard work.

    God Bless America!

    Thank you for you attention,

    (Your Name OR EB-3 India Applicant )
    Priority Date: April 02
    Category: EB-3
    Member ImmigrationVoice.Org

    Copy Sent to

    Honorable Secretary of State
    Dr. Condoleezza Rice
    U.S. Department of State
    2201 C Street NW
    Washington, DC 20520

    Honorable Director, USCIS
    U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service
    20 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
    Washington, D.C. 20529

    Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman
    Department of Homeland Security
    Attention: Case Problems
    Mail Stop 1225
    Washington, D.C. 20528-1225

    Senator John Cornyn
    Chairman - United States Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on
    Immigration, Border Security and Citizenship
    517 Hart Senate Office Bldg.
    Washington, DC 20510
    Main: 202-224-2934
    Fax: 202-228-2856

    Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren
    Chairwoman - United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship,
    Refugees, Border Security, and International Law
    102 Cannon HOB
    Washington, D.C. 20515
    Telephone (202) 225-3072

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  • Kushal
    06-06 04:07 AM
    Please listen to them and call everyone...Or we will again be defeated by anti-immigrant right wing teams.
    Folks, these opponents will gather momentum against our goal, and if we don't do our job now defeat is inevitable. Please have faith on the system and MAKE THE CALLS NOW....!!!
    I am surprised to see some of my neighbors who are on the same boat, doesn't forget to take updates from me on these matters....but when I ask them if they did their homework, they start looking around and giving me stupid smiles. And you can imagine what goes through my head PLEASE pick up the phone NOW or NEVER!!!.....


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  • va_labor2002
    07-27 10:04 AM
    If you have secure permanent job with a solid Company,it is better to buy a home. I have a well secured job and I bought the house back in 2002. Home prices were less in 2002 compare to 2006.

    But, if you are a consultant or working for a small company ,it may be better to wait till you get GC. But remember one thing, even if you get GC or Citizenship,if you loose your job and have a big mortgage to pay off,you will be in big trouble to make the monthly payment. This is true for even US Citizens !

    But, if you are optimistic and ready to take some risk,you may be making some Good amount of profit in the future ! I was very optimistic and took some risk in 2002 and now I am in a Safer Side ! Think about it

    Buying a house is a risky proposition on H1 specially considering the fact that if one is laid-off and needs to relocate within a short-time then one may end up loosing money. Besides getting into the hasseles of home maintainence is trouble-some and expensive and probably not worth the time and effort if one is uncertain about their future in this country.

    Having said that if an individual is good at taking calculated risks and has a secure job then rewards are truly exceptional. I would rather wait atleast till the time of filling I-485 before making any long-term investments in this country. I know lot of my friends are probably going to do the same.

    Good luck.

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  • gsc999
    07-12 02:18 AM
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  • gc28262
    01-28 05:15 PM
    Did you even read my post and the pdf link. BTW, pdf link refers to Aug 21st, 2009 much before this memo came out. Even if memo is withdrawn, how that is going to change the points agreed by the court?

    Here is the pdf link again ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Aug212009_09D2101.pdf

    I suggest that you go thru pdf links in my other posts for this topic. All these decisions refer to issues pertaining to H-1B working at the end-user client thru multiple layers. This memo does not make any difference that way. Like I said before, this memo just make the interpretation public knowledge.

    Why these H-1B cases have been denied in last years and why these denials were not reversed by appeal court? These answers should enlighten you.

    Just harping "illegal memo" does not change anything.

    Not a legal advice.

    Referring to the document.

    1. AAO is under USCIS ( I assume )
    2. USCIS has been making these erroneous judgments in the past in reference to H1B applications. If AILA overturns this USCIS memo( which I think is most likely), all these USCIS arguments will be trashed.

    Regarding the date of PDF (Aug 2009), USCIS has already been practicing whatever is listed in the Jan 2009 memo for past 1.5 years. The above said decision (PDF) was made during that duration. AILA is contending the very arguments made in Aug 2009 pdf.

    Also on another note, one of the leading lawyer's client reported that he got his H1B approved for a multi-layered consulting situation without even a client letter. So it depends on the lawyer who is presenting the case.

    Anyways let us wait and see.

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  • simple1
    01-29 06:31 AM
    nice try.

    Count me in. Just donated. Let me know if I can help fight this unfair memo in any way.


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  • syzygy
    01-31 01:45 PM
    Please read and vote cautiously as another illegal immigration related clause is at number 5

    Voted twice for both the questions and also urged half a dozen colleagues to do the same.

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  • pbojja
    10-02 11:12 PM
    EB2 india/china... see this..
    and then see this

    ab bajao ghanti... aur chup chap baithe raho
    (translation: sit there like a paraplegic in the line and do nothing ... while a massive line jumping is in process... you will keep seeing while all these EB3 "bodyshopped consultants" will continue to slowly port their PDs and get approved ahead of you.. EB2 I/C is in for a really really long wait.
    Honestly, these consultants don't even have an H1B worthy job: its not a permanent job offer. They don't get paid fulltime. Let alone their eligibility for a GC ....what a scam!


    Can you please give a back ground of yours before talking about others ? Are you CEO of some company ?

    First learn to complete your profile ...look at the 485 mailing and receive dates ..


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  • NeedMiracles
    09-13 12:55 PM
    I think SKIL bill is our only hope. Unlike CIR, it looks like this bill has been introduced in both the houses which is a good sign. This bill has more number of sponsers from the House than in the Senate. That's another good sign.

    Senate Bill - S.2691
    House Bill - HR5744

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  • nixstor
    07-26 06:02 PM

    Are H4's eligible for HOPE scholarship? Please provide more details



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  • wizpal
    03-14 12:29 PM
    I would say the activity in state chapter participation is '5%' at best in contributing members. By that token, you can ignore the non-contributing members. I see thousands of messages in retrogression and like forums while I see hardly dozens of messages in state chapters forums.

    Take the example of state Texas, it has one of the largest pool of House Reps in congress and folks impacted by retrogression in this state is very high. Most of these House Reps are anti-immigrant. I am not sure if it is for both legal and illegal. In TX, there is no state chapter activity for the last 4 months. I called for a meeting, not one responded. I think IV core should come up with a specific schedule for each of the state chapter meetings and also core team should assign a contact for each of the state chapters. Core team should also participate in these meetings to provide a directed leadership. If need be, induct more members into core team..

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  • GC_1000Watt
    01-09 12:18 AM
    This shows that the backlog is more than the numbers on USCIS website. People need to stop wasting time on tracking and spend time in their office work. Backlog means more business money for lawyers and trackers. IV is very small. Unless IV had hundreds of thousands of members, they cannot do lobbying like AILA or Microsoft. EB3 India and now EB3ROW is in a pitiable state. All those EB3ROW who used to be happy will now see the reality. Thank god I ported to EB2 but the dates for EB2 do not move enough. I think anyone who can should port to EB2 ASAP. This is the only solution.

    You're right. No offence but no authority seems to be listening to IV suggestions. I agree that people at IV are doing great job, but the problem is nobody is listening. They just don't care. And this think will go on & on. I remember s'body suggesting hunger strike and at that point of time I thought that won't work. But now it seems we have to go extreme and do hunger strike and stuff to pressurize this crappy system.
    EB3 people don't think I am being selfish here. The truth is we have to work unitely and pressurize for visa recapture. That will be beneficial for e'body.
    Lets target the 'Asses' asking for a kick. Let's all kick ass.


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  • Bradman
    10-19 02:58 PM
    Write to Mr. Bush (no kidding). They will send an inquiry to FBI and you will get something from FBI NNCP (name check division). If that does not help, file a lawsuit against USCIS/FBI. Or you can file a lawsuit first and then write a letter to save some time. The lawsuit will get things moving. The do-it-yourself guide is located here:

    I just wrote to the President & White House today. Let me see what they have to offer on this...

    Appreciate your advise !!!

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  • gimme Green!!
    07-20 04:20 PM
    Not sounding too pessimistic - but I do not see any option in the 7th year, than making my employer richer by the day.
    Have let go two excellent opportunities slip by in the last 6 months from highly reputed Consulting companies while continuing to work for my desi body shopper.
    Already have a US MS - and given the question on ROI, decided against an MBA.
    Hang in there.. and hope for SKIL to pass.

    I am surprised that Canadian companies do not recog US experience. WHY???

    I'm like everyone else - 7th year on H1-B. Sick of thinking about my career. I filed my labor in Aug 2002 EB-3 and so I'm also a retro victim. I'm convinced that GC will take another 5 years to come to my date.

    There are few options:

    1. Apply for Canandian PR and then if you are lucky you may get a good job in Canada in IT or else you will end up working in Wal*Mart or some grocery store cursing why you came here. Canadian Companies wants Canadian experience. US experience is not enough! :(

    2. Just enjoy without doing anything and hope that your GC would come before you die. :D

    3. Do some Masters degree. I'm currently erolled in a masters program and would somehow try to finish it. It would keep me focussed and create positive energies in me. Otherwise due to utter frustration, I'm not able to concentrate and work. If you are wise enough you would understand that there is no place for you here in US and you would push off immediately. :)


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  • cellphone
    04-20 03:51 PM
    ignore :D

    whatever the case is, this guy is doing it legally. Granted, he is taking advantage of the loop hole in the system. HOWEVER, it is legal. Trust me, we have taken advantage of several similar system loops holes in our lives.

    Everything is fair game as long as it is legal.

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  • rtarar
    07-18 01:03 PM
    Pd: Aug 2004
    Reached Nsc: 7/2 7:55 am
    Rejected: Don Know
    Ck Cashed: Not Yet

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  • chunk
    06-04 07:29 PM
    I'm going to do one after I finish with my GCSE studying!

    My final exams are next week... I hav'nt even started my revision.

    Ah well.

    10-04 05:49 PM
    It may not be popular here, but IMHO PD porting within the same filing category can be allowed, but not retaining the same PD if you are "upgrading" to another category.
    I remember one person giving an analogy of a queue in a grocery store. I would like to give a different take on it. One express line and another regular line. Lets say the regular line moves real slow and the express line is well express. However the express line slows down, but is not as slow as the regular line. The person waiting in a regular line decides enough is enough, moves to express line (by dumping the items that exceed the express line limit).
    How would the people in the express line react if the person from the regular line tries to "retain" his or her position by cutting into the express line, stating that he/she was before them, but only in a different line?
    If you think logically, that is the case we have here with category interfiling.

    I would recommend some sort of compromise, as its not fair either to ask EB3 people to move to the end of queue, as all said and done they've been able to bargain with their employer to apply for their GC, while we did enjoy a bit in grad school, and came out with a sense of entitlement. :D

    Some intermediary date, lets say determined by a mathematical algorithm (hopefully not designed by gctest) or whatever is deemed to be a fair date. But retaining the original timestamp in the regular queue is unacceptable to those who have qualified for EB2 before the one porting his/her date to EB2.

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