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  • innervoice
    02-25 07:13 AM
    Excellent idea!

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  • mabuhay
    07-17 08:05 PM
    I joined IV only this month due to the July visa fiasco. I learned a lot from all the members and the IV core team. I haven't made any contribution so far. My husband who has a H4 visa just recently graduated from nursing school and finances are tight. Anyway, with this new development, hopefully my husband will be able to get a job with his EAD. We will be in a position to contribute to IV. Thank you again!!!

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  • PlainSpeak
    04-16 03:26 PM one here knows everything abt immigration. so its ok that u lost this argument. we are here to share out experiences, enlighten each other, and work for easing EB backlogs. The fact that theres no one in entire IV that supports ur argument should put some sense into you abt this issue.

    and for everyone out there countering plain speak, know it will never end. i recently saw the sixth sense. the boy says 'they only believe what they want to believe'!

    No one lost or won any argument here. Every side has stated their case. Please go ahead and believe what you want to believe but according to me belief is not something which waxes and wanes according to your supporters.'

    Congrats on watching the sixth sense movie. Wow you are a big boy now. Before you start using that movie as an simile for what you are saying here, would you like me to explain what the movie was really about ...........

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  • abhijitp
    11-28 03:28 PM
    The question in the title of this post is for the user who gave me a red dot for "selling the July VB reversal"

    I am going to re-iterate, for I firmly believe I owe my ability to file AOS to this organization!

    If you too saved thousands of dollars owing to the VB reversal... this is the least you can and should do to help yourself to a GC, a few years sooner than otherwise.

    Contribute funds now to IV!
    Sign up for monthly contributions (preferred), or contribute one time!


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  • chanduv23
    12-07 10:39 AM
    Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??

    Very well said. I have been on IV and actively participated in a lot of campaigns and events and interacted with a lot of people from different walks of life, different nationalities, different situations etc ... WHat I have noticed is, everyone has their own opinion and stay entitled to their opinion. Everyone wants to be judgemental through their opinion.

    Now, lets all for a moment - step out of our "legal immigrant" shoes and step into the shoes of someone who has to decide what to do? As a decision maker, what will you do? Everyone has their own opinion to which they are entitled and thats whats happening.

    Now, ocne again - step out of your legal immigrant shoes, and say, for some reason, you lost status and are deportable - what will be your opinion? Would you say "Shakle me and put me in detention center?"

    If you are in poverty and and have no food for 2 days, you may go grab a bread from a store and run to a safe place and eat it - will you talk all these rules about shop lifting .....

    If you catch a hungry child shoplifting to eat a bread will you PUNISH him? Ir will you try to do someting to make things better for him?

    All you have to do is to come out of "the hate and hard" thinking and try to look at things in "rational and meaningful way"

    Hate no one for what they are or how they are. Try to see if you can help. Just help.

    I have been living in US for close to 10 years now and though I am proud of fellow Indian community and their achievements, I have also noticed how the community is divided and oponionated. Forming so many sub groups, promoting caste feelings, fighting each other, trying to piut down other fellow community members, lack of unity and what not ....

    If everyone in this world want to be considerate and help - then there will certainly be a day when we can see a world without poverty, wars and all the issues we are having today.

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  • pappu
    12-18 05:19 PM
    Thank you very much for starting this campaign. After this was started, the drought for the past few days has ended and 4 members have contributed today till now. Thank you very much for starting this. We will be able to use all our resources in the coming months to get something done if we have sufficient funds that meet our target of 60K by December end. If all members get active, there is no doubt that we will succeed very soon.


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  • wandmaker
    12-03 08:04 AM
    Bump......... I will add 50 bucks when it reaches 5K.

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  • kumarc123
    07-10 01:43 PM
    I tend to agree.... nowhere in the past discussions IV seem to have cared about EB3s. It is more frustrating to see this situation sincce Eb3's have been suffering for longer with no hopes what so ever.
    And anyone trying to implicate that EB3s are less skilled are plain wrong - we got in EB3 limbo due to large corporations doing things by book (or for plain long term commitment out of workers).

    Either way, IV leadership needs to re-iterate and re-emphasize at least once that this is not EB2 fight only but EB fight in general. IV discussions simply have gone EB2 biased only for too long.

    To answer your query,
    Let me start by repeating myself, it is not about EB2 or EB3. We all are EB communities. We didn't design the system, neither we believe ourselves to be superior to EB3. The point is all of us need to work together and help ourselves to change the system. IF EB2 gets some advantage then ultimately it will help EB3 as well.

    It is a simple logic, when the cake gets cut it rolls down to all the people in line. If there is no cake, whats the point of arguing who is ahead in line?

    Please everyone, stop complaining about who is ahead, work together. Instead of complaining do some more constructive, involve more people. lets gather necessary means to file this lawsuit.



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  • willwin
    07-10 04:00 PM
    Hello All,
    i concur with the aspect of filling a lawsuit, as it will create more visibility and put more pressure on congress. As it is congress is under the gun for failing to act on a lot of bills. Even though if it does not create instant results, it will definitely lead to some type of change in coming months. I am sure if we all pitch in 50$ each, we can accumulate good amount of money. Also we can use Murthy Law firm to file a lawsuit. Lets not forget the amount of visibility Murthy law firm is getting from IV. If there is a law suite filed through them, then they also get to share the limelight.

    The point here is, we can get a discounted price on the service, also Murthy law firm is aware of our situation. Administrator what do you think?

    All EB3 guys, stop complaining about EB2-EB3, it is about EB community. IF EB2 get some direct benefit, then it will be rolled down to EB3 as well. Please let us not discuss issues which separate us. Right now we should focus on unity and creating a mass number of high skilled workers who can SHOW up on rally's.


    Sorry but I don't agree with your point that if EB2 benefits today EB3 would benefit tomorrow. It looks plain and simple but it's not so in reality. Unless all EB2 categories become current and EB3 ROW get the overflow and become current, EB3 I (or China or Mexico) is not going to be benefitted from EB2 getting a VISA! You are basically saying to EB3 filers to wait for another 10 years so that the EB2 queue may reduce so that EB3 queue would start moving. That's not a practical solution.

    I think once there is an overflow (from EB1), then it should:

    1. go to the category that's retrogressed more or
    2. split the overflow among retrogressed categories and
    3. go to EB2 if both EB2 and EB3 have the same cut off date.

    Does US need more EB2 (than EB3) or need them sooner (than EB3)? If they need more EB2, then EB2 can get more numbers (but the restriction should happen at H1/L1 level). If they need them sooner, then they can be on a fast track. But by approving a EB3 or EB2 I140, the Govt. is saying that they need that particular applicant. A vast difference between these two categories at the last queue (485) does not make sense.

    It is insane to ask a EB3 I 2001 filer to wait forever just because he filed under EB3 and grant a VISA to EB2 2004 filer! It is not different from granting a VISA to a EB3 2007 ROW filer and making EB3 I 2001 wait. EB2 is taking all the overflow which, in my view, is not correct. EB2 is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). EB3 ROW is benefitting at the cost of EB3 I (China and Mexico). Just my opinion.

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  • tom
    07-17 08:00 PM
    Good work IV.


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  • sathweb
    02-25 04:50 PM
    I read the beginning of the thread, did not read all the posts.
    I have been thinking something similar. Instead of targeting one Senator/Congressman we have to present our case to as many as Senators/ Congressman. Lets prepare a good power point or some other presentable document.
    I am ready to take appointment with my local Senator/Congressman and present our case. I am positive I can get appointment with my local congresswoman. Please lets create a plan.

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  • ganguteli
    02-25 08:48 AM
    You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.

    What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.

    That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item


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  • theMan
    07-17 08:47 PM
    You are "theMen" and "theWomen" as well. I have been advocating your role in obtaining relief for many of us here. Obviously some free riders and doubting thomases are still there, but once again, congratulations on a job well done.

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  • ps57002
    09-08 05:46 AM
    Whatever/whoever it is, it does work in stiring people up. Has me all worked up. Going to go put up flyers. Going to join thread contributing $ to help someone else attend the rally....


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  • gc28262
    03-09 10:23 AM

    I want your input on a very important issue. So far I haven't heard anything proper from IV Core. We achieved the pledge goal. This really shows everybody's passion to get the real data.

    We have couple of options:

    1. We deposit all the amount to IV's regular account. In that case quite a few guys have asked for guarantee that first $5000 out of this money will be spent specifically for this purpose.

    2. We create a new paypal account, get all the donation in that acccount and one of us get the data from USCIS and share with everyone on IV thread itself.

    Please let me know your opinion ASAP. This is very important and quick reply is necessary.

    IMO both options are fine as long as we meet our objective.

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  • mjdup
    12-18 05:38 PM
    I understand $20 is probably two days of lunch and coffee but by contributing you will just make the IV stronger and mightier by the time congress starts...

    yup, I can feel 46 more contributions coming in next hour or so....


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  • msp1976
    02-02 09:38 PM
    Is there a USCIS URL/publication that explains the following? Thanks.

    These should be USCIS rules like IRS rules. Everyone should be entitled to see them like IRS rules.

    Yes Sir...You are all entitled to read 10000 lines of goobledegook....

    Follow the URLs I posted...

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  • Sherman_tribiani
    09-08 05:38 PM
    No need to shout here...I know this is an educated community and I am trying to hold a logical debate. But very few posts have any logical responses. So far no convincing argument has been put forward explaining why they deserve the coveted work permits (aka Green Cards). This shows the immigration system need to be fixed to filter out such nuances.

    To support my point, please see my additional posts: 101, 105,110 and 117. All responses I got were just BS, with no logic. These people know only how to talk with no action. America is a country of actions with razor sharp focus.

    So my friend ,a personal advice to you: I have been following yours and others posts closely. You are wasting your time arranging all those buses and all other BS. The rally will not succeed. Just take a look how many people you have so far? Admit it you just don’t have the numbers to succeed.

    Moderators/IV leadership please note that I would want to complete my series of replies and there are 10 more replies remaining. I feel that those posts are worth being replied to. I will appreciate if you will let me put my points. Thereafter, I really don't care. If you want to discuss this on phone, send me an e-mail first on and we can set up some time.

    You really are getting on my nerves now.

    You are no future predictor... How can you say Strive Act is doomed?...
    You as well as I know that we need just handful (probably four) of votes to pass this bill.

    The rally is being done to lobby for the support. And if those undecided lawmakers come into our camp then we will win and you will LOSE!

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    04-26 12:53 PM

    I acknowledge the specific request from the reporter with regards to speaking with someone who is in the process of GC. I agree that you were doing the right thing.

    Why I wrote my thoughts were to expand the scope of story collection, not just related to the above. This can help in our quest, when you present the bunch of stories to the concerned authorities. Lawmakers like Senator Sessions who was again highlighting yesterday in the SJC meeting about exemption of spouses and dependents from the GC numbers. This was so nicely explained by the Harvard Professor, that Sen Sessions could not counter at all. When Harvard Prof mentioned that as long as you have more highly skilled legal workers, it is always positive as it contributes to positive cash flow economically and not negative as compared to the undocumented. I could see Sen Sessions just gasping empty words as he could not retort this. The professors rightly put the perspective of positive economic impact with more highly skilled legal workers against the low skilled illegal workers. Here too they mentioned that if the low skilled illegal workers as they are not have a negative contribution to the economy, but when legalized this would become positive. Sen Sessions could not say anything to this, because there were reputed economists, who had a lot of background research in this area.

    Now a days even Lou Dobbs seem to change his language, while being against illegal immigrants he was also against H1B (in the past), now he strongly supports Legal immigration, why? because he understands the positive economic impact a legal immigrant makes to the US economy in light of the massive offshoring and job losses. End of the day it is all a numbers game!

    My story was already been mailed to you long back and you have acknowledged receiving.

    12-19 02:11 PM
    I have contributed what ever i could but have collected $50 from one of my cousin and another $40 from a friend.

    I'm mailing them today.

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