saileshdude
04-08 03:30 PM
EB1 spillover may never come for some time in the future. The Indian IT companies are applying under EB1 for their PMs and Senior PMs (req: BS in any discipline + 6-7 yrs exp), labeling them as multi-national executives. They are also making the employee pay for the 140 and 485 so that the financial impact is reduced a lot by a potential rejection of the 140.
This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:
You nailed it. This is the other form of labor substitution loophole the indian IT companies are using. Even I have started to hear quite a few cases now that indian IT PM or manager are being labelled as multi-national executives. If this is not stopped then any relief from spillover, you can just forget about it. I have heard lot of cases now like this and we need to do something about it. Only genuine candidates should be able to apply in this category.
This is as much BS as labor sub. I think everybody here knows how tough it is to get EB1 classification for researchers. But what scrutiny is there for these "multi-national executives" ? All they have to do is spend some time in India or any other country as a PM or SPM, come to the US on H1B and promptly apply under EB1. :mad:
You nailed it. This is the other form of labor substitution loophole the indian IT companies are using. Even I have started to hear quite a few cases now that indian IT PM or manager are being labelled as multi-national executives. If this is not stopped then any relief from spillover, you can just forget about it. I have heard lot of cases now like this and we need to do something about it. Only genuine candidates should be able to apply in this category.
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snathan
04-12 12:56 AM
have you ever took a vacation day off faking ill-health either of yourself or somebody you know? when its convenient for us, we tend to legitimize what we do, when somebody else does it, they have to suffer. And oh no, you are not selfish, you are just jealous
Well...may i ask you this. Dont you have the courage to post all your reply with real id. You just created one new handle to post your crap. So you know what you are talking is not right?
Otherwise come up with your real identity and present your view. Dont be a coward.
Well...may i ask you this. Dont you have the courage to post all your reply with real id. You just created one new handle to post your crap. So you know what you are talking is not right?
Otherwise come up with your real identity and present your view. Dont be a coward.
amitjoey
01-19 01:28 PM
I agree, titles like "H4 to H1", "Changing Employers", "Urgent question" etc. etc. will obviously be visited more.
May be a gentle reminder about contributions in other topics would help.
How sad it is that we don't get support from our own.
Yes, and the majority of the 8000 members can keep discussing other things. we only need 882 members like us. Lutherpraveen, I have hope that there are 872 people out there that are ready to contribute.
May be a gentle reminder about contributions in other topics would help.
How sad it is that we don't get support from our own.
Yes, and the majority of the 8000 members can keep discussing other things. we only need 882 members like us. Lutherpraveen, I have hope that there are 872 people out there that are ready to contribute.
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akhilmahajan
08-01 03:25 PM
I tried to take the appointment and i got dates for me.
Where are you located at?
GO IV GO.
Where are you located at?
GO IV GO.
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lelica32
05-09 04:22 AM
Can someone please explain how it`s work with this PD. My Lawyer hase apply for PERM at 04/30/2007. It`s meens that my PD is this date?
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prolegalimmi
10-15 01:13 PM
There will be so many stuck in namecheck....nobody can be sure that their fortunes will follow even a single one of these predictions...since anyone can land in the blackhole...I WISH WISH WISH we cld do something abt the name check mess!!
From what I hear, Name check is a random sample check, still unfortunate for those who have to go through it, but not all applicants will go through the name check.
From what I hear, Name check is a random sample check, still unfortunate for those who have to go through it, but not all applicants will go through the name check.
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akhilmahajan
08-07 02:45 PM
I opened the SR yesterday. I still have 40 or so days but the Rep said they take atleast 10 days to decide and if you want to open that should be fine.
I hope this helps.
I hope this helps.
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conchshell
05-18 10:20 AM
we have almost as many folks that have not called as those that did. why? oh why? just pick up the phone and leave at least 1 VM today!
Various reasons may be possible: some people may think that phone campaign may not be an effective method. However, all of them who decided not to participate, did not post a message and explained why do they think so. It happened initially for the flower campaign too ... however when momentum build, lots of no sayers also started sending flowers.
Second, its quite possible that anti-immigration people are creating the account and voting against the campaign. Some one should take a look at the accounts who voted against, and see when exactly they joined IV? At the same time, some people who are EB2/EB3 ROW, think that if these bill pass, their GC will take more time.
Another aspect is: majority of people still do not realize how grave the situation is. I was talking to one of my good friend (EB3 India), I am chasing him from last one year to join the fight. He nodes his head and says Yes every time I talk to him, but never comes forward. Yesterday, when I urged him to participate in CHC campaign, he told me "Don't worry, I will help you". This one sentence clarified a lot. He still doesn't see himself impacted by this situation, and still believes that some day his GC will appear magically. He is just living in a fools paradise and enjoying his EAD/AP. BTW, his PD is April 2004 EB3 India. Afterwards, I had to be a little straight with him, and convey him in bitter words that I am not asking his support for my GC, but I a asking this so that he can help himself. Hope someday he will realize this.
Various reasons may be possible: some people may think that phone campaign may not be an effective method. However, all of them who decided not to participate, did not post a message and explained why do they think so. It happened initially for the flower campaign too ... however when momentum build, lots of no sayers also started sending flowers.
Second, its quite possible that anti-immigration people are creating the account and voting against the campaign. Some one should take a look at the accounts who voted against, and see when exactly they joined IV? At the same time, some people who are EB2/EB3 ROW, think that if these bill pass, their GC will take more time.
Another aspect is: majority of people still do not realize how grave the situation is. I was talking to one of my good friend (EB3 India), I am chasing him from last one year to join the fight. He nodes his head and says Yes every time I talk to him, but never comes forward. Yesterday, when I urged him to participate in CHC campaign, he told me "Don't worry, I will help you". This one sentence clarified a lot. He still doesn't see himself impacted by this situation, and still believes that some day his GC will appear magically. He is just living in a fools paradise and enjoying his EAD/AP. BTW, his PD is April 2004 EB3 India. Afterwards, I had to be a little straight with him, and convey him in bitter words that I am not asking his support for my GC, but I a asking this so that he can help himself. Hope someday he will realize this.
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ravi98
03-25 12:04 AM
I like the food from a particular restaurant.
- I go there often, enjoy the food, and recommend it to my friends.
I don't like the food from a particular restaurant.
- I don't go there at all, even when I am hungry and I will tell my bad food experience to my friends - either convince them not to go there or let them decide on their choice.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical?
I like what IV has done, what IV is doing currently.
- I will visit the site often, get the information I want/need and recommend it to my friends
I don't like what IV has done, or what it is doing currently.
- I will not visit the site, as it is a waste of time and I will tell my bad experience to my friends - either convince them to leave IV or let them decide on their choice.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical?
Now, I don't like a particular restaurant, they serve bad food, bad customer service, waste of money, time - BUT I still go to the restaurant, eat the bad food, complain of the customer service, spend money knowing very well I am not getting its worth, and then stand up in the middle of this same restaurant floor and tell people this restaurant is not good (while eating) and tell my friends not to go to this restaurant (while I continue to go).
Reasonable? Logical? Practical? Or Unreasonable? Illogical? Impractical? - I would say second choice.
Let's do the same comparison:
I don't like what IV has done, nor what it is doing currently, I don't believe in anything and therefore will not participate, volunteer or contribute - BUT, I still come to IV, surf the threads, get the information I need, complain about undemocratic ways of the IV while having never made an attempt to find out more details, yet, coming on to the forums to post about why I cannot participate, volunteer and contribute. Demanding/Questioning about democratic principles while not understanding the very basis of democracy - PARTICIPATION.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical? Or Unreasonable? Illogical? Impractical? - I would say second choice.
What do you as a reasonable, logical and practical person think?
- I go there often, enjoy the food, and recommend it to my friends.
I don't like the food from a particular restaurant.
- I don't go there at all, even when I am hungry and I will tell my bad food experience to my friends - either convince them not to go there or let them decide on their choice.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical?
I like what IV has done, what IV is doing currently.
- I will visit the site often, get the information I want/need and recommend it to my friends
I don't like what IV has done, or what it is doing currently.
- I will not visit the site, as it is a waste of time and I will tell my bad experience to my friends - either convince them to leave IV or let them decide on their choice.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical?
Now, I don't like a particular restaurant, they serve bad food, bad customer service, waste of money, time - BUT I still go to the restaurant, eat the bad food, complain of the customer service, spend money knowing very well I am not getting its worth, and then stand up in the middle of this same restaurant floor and tell people this restaurant is not good (while eating) and tell my friends not to go to this restaurant (while I continue to go).
Reasonable? Logical? Practical? Or Unreasonable? Illogical? Impractical? - I would say second choice.
Let's do the same comparison:
I don't like what IV has done, nor what it is doing currently, I don't believe in anything and therefore will not participate, volunteer or contribute - BUT, I still come to IV, surf the threads, get the information I need, complain about undemocratic ways of the IV while having never made an attempt to find out more details, yet, coming on to the forums to post about why I cannot participate, volunteer and contribute. Demanding/Questioning about democratic principles while not understanding the very basis of democracy - PARTICIPATION.
Reasonable? Logical? Practical? Or Unreasonable? Illogical? Impractical? - I would say second choice.
What do you as a reasonable, logical and practical person think?
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hellomms
05-15 08:41 AM
I will reach out to the admins and see if they can provide some templates. By the way, we could use one of the other (issues) templates that were floating around a couple months back. Not sure if they are still there.
I think that we all should send the letter individually. Why? Because the if each one of us will send, it will look genuine and will remind the DoL each time/day they get a letter. We have 50 some people, 50 letters will make them look into it.
P.S: good job in finding the plan, its about time that we do something, I dont think any more people are going to come.
I think that we all should send the letter individually. Why? Because the if each one of us will send, it will look genuine and will remind the DoL each time/day they get a letter. We have 50 some people, 50 letters will make them look into it.
P.S: good job in finding the plan, its about time that we do something, I dont think any more people are going to come.
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pappu
12-14 11:04 PM
YOu can also use the tool at
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to invite your friends
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_invite_friends&Itemid=55
to invite your friends
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kartikiran
07-13 04:00 PM
To Answer you.
I do not intend to become a Citizen of USA nor want to be part of IV CORE.
GCPerm, Good answers. I commend you for that.
Otherwise, I sincerely believe even after I get my green card, we should focus on resolving this green card backlog mess and if we can get green card holders and US Citizens to support this cause it woule be better.
Maybe you are not able to relate to what EB3 candidates go through. Yes it is a choice we made to wait in this country. A lot of EB3 people qualify for EB2 based on their qualifications and experience but were put into EB3 due to company's choice or attorney's mistake.
But no person should be made to wait for an answer of whether their application is going to be approved for 8-10 years.
The pre-adjudication in my opinion is a farce as it was more done to get their(USCIS) inventory calculated properly than ensuring the person is clear from all angles. Because, I know of about 5 people who are in EB2 who are sent RFE's now, after their dates have become current. They were supposedly pre-adjudicated as per the IO during the interview at the local office. some of them were fingerprints, some of them just to verify whether the husband and wife are still married etc.
Coming back to my point, there are EB3 applicants now who have a priority date of 2006, 2008 2009 etc. Can we accept a process which asks people to wait for 20 years to get a Yay or Nay for their application is the question. I think it is unacceptable. I believe more green card holders and US Citizens who are deciding to put their roots in USA should help the country to better the legal immigration system first before anything else.
Regarding citizenship as I mentioned before if you think you will not bail out after starting a campaign, then go ahead and lead it.
I do not intend to become a Citizen of USA nor want to be part of IV CORE.
GCPerm, Good answers. I commend you for that.
Otherwise, I sincerely believe even after I get my green card, we should focus on resolving this green card backlog mess and if we can get green card holders and US Citizens to support this cause it woule be better.
Maybe you are not able to relate to what EB3 candidates go through. Yes it is a choice we made to wait in this country. A lot of EB3 people qualify for EB2 based on their qualifications and experience but were put into EB3 due to company's choice or attorney's mistake.
But no person should be made to wait for an answer of whether their application is going to be approved for 8-10 years.
The pre-adjudication in my opinion is a farce as it was more done to get their(USCIS) inventory calculated properly than ensuring the person is clear from all angles. Because, I know of about 5 people who are in EB2 who are sent RFE's now, after their dates have become current. They were supposedly pre-adjudicated as per the IO during the interview at the local office. some of them were fingerprints, some of them just to verify whether the husband and wife are still married etc.
Coming back to my point, there are EB3 applicants now who have a priority date of 2006, 2008 2009 etc. Can we accept a process which asks people to wait for 20 years to get a Yay or Nay for their application is the question. I think it is unacceptable. I believe more green card holders and US Citizens who are deciding to put their roots in USA should help the country to better the legal immigration system first before anything else.
Regarding citizenship as I mentioned before if you think you will not bail out after starting a campaign, then go ahead and lead it.
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buddyinsd
08-05 04:43 PM
...Wow EB folks r bombarding the USCIS servers rt now and its down currently...Its been up N down for a while now
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maqsoodalam
04-10 10:48 PM
I am in the same boat. Can anyone reply to this inquiry.... please!
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royus77
06-29 06:44 PM
In order to approve a 485 the PD should be current
Oh !! I see then to approve a 2001/2002/2003 485 case , every month USICS needs to make the VB current on 15 and retrogress on 30th ....
Oh !! I see then to approve a 2001/2002/2003 485 case , every month USICS needs to make the VB current on 15 and retrogress on 30th ....
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StarSun
03-26 08:14 PM
Please check the first 2 posts on this thread for updates.
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blackfisher
05-08 06:08 PM
I am a new member and am also waiting for Atlanta to process my PERM app.
Original Application - 09/12/07
Audit/all sent in by 12/13/07
Category - EB3
Country - Canada
No word since.
Original Application - 09/12/07
Audit/all sent in by 12/13/07
Category - EB3
Country - Canada
No word since.
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tonyHK12
09-30 09:38 AM
Menendez Wants CIR During Lame Duck Session
"The Hispanic population is part of our DNA, and that's why it's so painful when persons think that it is based in racism," Brewer said. (This is a translation of the program's Spanish-language voice-over of her remarks.) She called Hispanics "a fundamental part of our culture."
"We passed SB 1070 because we cant accept the costs of illegal immigration," Brewer told Ramos.
Good point, most people miss the above seperating the two.
I have the highest regard for the hispanic population of this country and their contributions.
"The Hispanic population is part of our DNA, and that's why it's so painful when persons think that it is based in racism," Brewer said. (This is a translation of the program's Spanish-language voice-over of her remarks.) She called Hispanics "a fundamental part of our culture."
"We passed SB 1070 because we cant accept the costs of illegal immigration," Brewer told Ramos.
Good point, most people miss the above seperating the two.
I have the highest regard for the hispanic population of this country and their contributions.
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willwin
10-05 04:51 PM
Till early part of 2004 or latter part of 2003, most of the Indians applied EB3 very few applied EB2. After 2004, it was reverse. I doubt any one appled EB3 in 2005 0r 2006.
If EB3 stays continously in 2001 and EB2 in 2004 (there is 3 year difference in cutoff date between EB2 and EB3 now), the guys with EB3 PD 2002 and 2003 will convert to EB2 by applying new 140 to transfer PD. This flow will balance the cut-off dates. Eventually it will reach a common ground or a break-even point.
So, when a 485 is pending, can one file for a new LC (under EB2), I140 and have two GC in progress simutaneously?
If EB3 stays continously in 2001 and EB2 in 2004 (there is 3 year difference in cutoff date between EB2 and EB3 now), the guys with EB3 PD 2002 and 2003 will convert to EB2 by applying new 140 to transfer PD. This flow will balance the cut-off dates. Eventually it will reach a common ground or a break-even point.
So, when a 485 is pending, can one file for a new LC (under EB2), I140 and have two GC in progress simutaneously?
snathan
05-23 10:43 PM
I have read that the Chicago cases were going to be moved to from May. BUt what about the cases that have been in Audit since Jan/Feb 2008. Were they also moved or something.
AJ
I guess so
AJ
I guess so
kbsyed61
09-03 05:17 PM
By grace of Almighty, finally my Inbox received the email from USCIS that I was eagerly waiting for.
Just few minutes back, I received the Email from USCIS for myself, my wife and daughter saying "Current Status: Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident".
It's a long journey started in August 1997 with landing in Washington Dulles Airport. Got a chance to start the GC process by filing Labor in 2001. The labor approval didn't come until 2007.
In 2004 had to take a transfer to different company which caused me to start the Labor again in Nov 2004. Lost the valuable 3 years of PD date.
Finally the approval for 2nd labor came just right before 2007 July Fiasco. Luckily I had my attorney filed my application on July 2nd itself. And Rest you know the story.
All throughout I was on H1B, on permanent employment and never out of status. Never had any problem with Immigration process except for the GC delay. In any way it was an interesting journey, making new friends, had the chance to live in SFO, LA, New Jersey, Virginia and currently in Maryland.
Many thanks to IV and its members for providing the wonderful platform for sharing and collaborating for common cause.
I wish all the best to all those who are still in queue. Hang in there. Your turn will come.
Just few minutes back, I received the Email from USCIS for myself, my wife and daughter saying "Current Status: Notice mailed welcoming the new permanent resident".
It's a long journey started in August 1997 with landing in Washington Dulles Airport. Got a chance to start the GC process by filing Labor in 2001. The labor approval didn't come until 2007.
In 2004 had to take a transfer to different company which caused me to start the Labor again in Nov 2004. Lost the valuable 3 years of PD date.
Finally the approval for 2nd labor came just right before 2007 July Fiasco. Luckily I had my attorney filed my application on July 2nd itself. And Rest you know the story.
All throughout I was on H1B, on permanent employment and never out of status. Never had any problem with Immigration process except for the GC delay. In any way it was an interesting journey, making new friends, had the chance to live in SFO, LA, New Jersey, Virginia and currently in Maryland.
Many thanks to IV and its members for providing the wonderful platform for sharing and collaborating for common cause.
I wish all the best to all those who are still in queue. Hang in there. Your turn will come.
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