Ramba
10-07 03:26 PM
True, but you are forgetting the basic definition of demand. Demand is willingness to buy supported by ability to buy. If you are from any metros in India, think how many of your Non-IT, mainstream friends draw more than Rs. 50,000 per month? How can someone making even Rs. 50,000 a month afford 50 Lakh flat?
If there are 10 people drooling out side Ferrari showroom that does not mean there is demand for 10 Ferrari :)
Cheers
ArkBird
I understand. Even for NRI it is difficut to afford now. The issue is the numbers. How many H1b and L1s come to US from 1990 t0 2008. Very very conservative estimation wil be atleast 2 million. This estimation ignores other NRIs in other country. Apart from this there are many resident IT folks makes 6 digit salary plays the role. If most of them tries to buy, we need to find another India. Indian real estates become a NRI colony,
If there are 10 people drooling out side Ferrari showroom that does not mean there is demand for 10 Ferrari :)
Cheers
ArkBird
I understand. Even for NRI it is difficut to afford now. The issue is the numbers. How many H1b and L1s come to US from 1990 t0 2008. Very very conservative estimation wil be atleast 2 million. This estimation ignores other NRIs in other country. Apart from this there are many resident IT folks makes 6 digit salary plays the role. If most of them tries to buy, we need to find another India. Indian real estates become a NRI colony,
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lfwf
11-03 11:11 AM
I have tried to put my career goals ahead of the dollar conversion rate (not always easy). Because i took up new roles and salary , i have had to restart the GC process a couple of times. As a result i am still without GC despite being here for more than 10 years and having two masters degrees from US. I am sure this is a common story here.
I am heading towards a another change and now have very little patience for restarting the process. I am glad many people on this forum have volunteered to help pack. I will be getting in touch with you in a few months.
That there are frustrated people with opportunities outside the US, and they will leave. This is a great example. However this is still a silly poll. It does not ask questions that will bring that out. It talks about leaving to prove something to someone. People did not come here to prove things to the US and will not leave for that reason.
On another note I heard this was an activist organization. A peek at the threads shows a lot of whining and complaining about being asked to be active. maybe I heard wrong.
I am heading towards a another change and now have very little patience for restarting the process. I am glad many people on this forum have volunteered to help pack. I will be getting in touch with you in a few months.
That there are frustrated people with opportunities outside the US, and they will leave. This is a great example. However this is still a silly poll. It does not ask questions that will bring that out. It talks about leaving to prove something to someone. People did not come here to prove things to the US and will not leave for that reason.
On another note I heard this was an activist organization. A peek at the threads shows a lot of whining and complaining about being asked to be active. maybe I heard wrong.
forgerator
04-19 02:58 PM
Nothing ever is super-fast. Certainly not the green card. You had your share of waiting. Its just that you suddenly see light at the end of tunnel and before you realize you are out of it. So it feels like a dream.
There have been folks who have got their greens in two years flat. Not because they were the smartest workers around. That is lightening fast.
Congratulations to you.
Actually I know someone who got it even faster.
This Pakistani guy came to the US in 2004 fresh off boat to do Masters. Completed Masters by mid 2005, immediately landed job at MS, they started his GC immediately in EB2 ROW and by end of 2005 he had GC in hand. It was ridiculous.
There have been folks who have got their greens in two years flat. Not because they were the smartest workers around. That is lightening fast.
Congratulations to you.
Actually I know someone who got it even faster.
This Pakistani guy came to the US in 2004 fresh off boat to do Masters. Completed Masters by mid 2005, immediately landed job at MS, they started his GC immediately in EB2 ROW and by end of 2005 he had GC in hand. It was ridiculous.
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lazycis
10-09 02:30 PM
A good read on the subject with references to applicable law and USCIS memos/policies:
https://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0109-nadalin.shtm#_edn29
https://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0109-nadalin.shtm#_edn29
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gzpain
01-31 10:41 AM
Done.
desi3933
01-28 01:52 PM
[From the pdf file]
The regulatory definition of "United States employer" requires H-IB employers to have a tax identification number, to employ persons in the United States, and to have an "employer-employee relationship" with the
H-1B "employee." 8 C.F.R. 5 214.2(h)(4)(ii). Accordingly, the term "United States employer" not only requires H-IB employers and employees to have an "employer-employee relationship" as understood by common-law agency doctrine, it imposes additional requirements, thus indicating that the regulations do not indicate an intent to extend the definition beyond "the traditional common law definition." Therefore, in the absence of an intent to impose broader definitions by either Congress or USCIS, the "conventional masterservant relationship as understood by common-law agency doctrine," and the Darden construction test, apply to the terms "employee," "employer-employee relationship," "employed," and "employment" as used in section IOl(a)(l5)(H)(i)(b) of the Act, section 212(n) of the Act, and 8 C.F.R. � 214.2(h). That being said, there are instances in the Act where Congress may have intended a broader application of the term "employer" than what is encompassed in the conventional master-servant relationship. See, e.g., section 214(c)(2)(F) of the Act, 8 U.S.C. 5 1184(c)(2)(F) (referring to "unaffiliated employers" supervising and controlling L-1B intracompany transferees having specialized knowledge); section 274A of the Act, 8 U.S.C. 3 1324a (referring to the employment of unauthorized aliens).
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Jul062009_06D2101.pdf
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Not a legal advice.
The regulatory definition of "United States employer" requires H-IB employers to have a tax identification number, to employ persons in the United States, and to have an "employer-employee relationship" with the
H-1B "employee." 8 C.F.R. 5 214.2(h)(4)(ii). Accordingly, the term "United States employer" not only requires H-IB employers and employees to have an "employer-employee relationship" as understood by common-law agency doctrine, it imposes additional requirements, thus indicating that the regulations do not indicate an intent to extend the definition beyond "the traditional common law definition." Therefore, in the absence of an intent to impose broader definitions by either Congress or USCIS, the "conventional masterservant relationship as understood by common-law agency doctrine," and the Darden construction test, apply to the terms "employee," "employer-employee relationship," "employed," and "employment" as used in section IOl(a)(l5)(H)(i)(b) of the Act, section 212(n) of the Act, and 8 C.F.R. � 214.2(h). That being said, there are instances in the Act where Congress may have intended a broader application of the term "employer" than what is encompassed in the conventional master-servant relationship. See, e.g., section 214(c)(2)(F) of the Act, 8 U.S.C. 5 1184(c)(2)(F) (referring to "unaffiliated employers" supervising and controlling L-1B intracompany transferees having specialized knowledge); section 274A of the Act, 8 U.S.C. 3 1324a (referring to the employment of unauthorized aliens).
http://www.uscis.gov/err/D2%20-%20Temporary%20Worker%20in%20a%20Specialty%20Occup ation%20or%20Fashion%20Model%20%28H-1B%29/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Jul062009_06D2101.pdf
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vjonline
03-29 03:55 PM
hey h1b_alex..very sorry to hear your situation. If you feel I am not asking for too much, can you name the company? That would help a lot of people who can avoid getting in trouble in the future.
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pcs
04-19 08:25 AM
You mean members who have not contributed anything so far, right?
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walking_dude
03-13 12:49 PM
I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.
I was also unable to find a state chapter just a few months back. So I started one. Now we have around 60 members. Someone needs to take the initiative and set the ball rolling. That someone can be you.
Here's an excellent resource on how to start a state chapter.
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
The end date is the date when the fixes get passed.
IV moved the target dates to get more letters from members. It paid back richly as thousands more letters were got through the hardwork of volunteers who collected these letters. As pointed by paskal work is in progress on the campaign and more stuff is getting done.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
If you really think you can get someone like Aman Kapoor - who visited DC 18 times last year spending 60k of his personal money - by paying a few extra bucks, be my guest!
IV is a volunteer organization. Its strength is volunteers who believe in the cause and ready to spend their efforts and money for a cause that benefits not only them, but also the slackers who do nothing and sit on the forum badmouthing/belittling those who do.
A paid person will not do all that for you for the few extra bucks you are ready to pay.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Don't judge IV by what's posted on the forum. IV is more than a forum. A lot of action happens off the forum (in fact most of it). Like Morpheus told Neo in Matrix, 'No one can tell you what it is. You need to experience it yourself'. Participating actively in IV activities through state chapters is the only way to know all IV activities happening.
It will never get posted here in a forum full of anti-immigrant trolls. IV is transparent in its finances as it gets audited as a tax-exempt organization and held accountable to its expenses. Transparency is bi-directional. IV expects its members seeking updates to be transparent too (by providing complete contact details and valid E-mail ids). When a large number of members aren't transparent themselves, asking IV to be transparent is a moot point.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Sorry to be blunt here. IVs aim is to motivate members to participate in the activities and achieve the goal. Keeping spirits high for everyone is not a part of the deal.
Creation of such a value-added paid membership was discussed earlier. Most of the IV members don't want it. So it didn't happen.
I was also unable to find a state chapter just a few months back. So I started one. Now we have around 60 members. Someone needs to take the initiative and set the ball rolling. That someone can be you.
Here's an excellent resource on how to start a state chapter.
http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html
The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.
The end date is the date when the fixes get passed.
IV moved the target dates to get more letters from members. It paid back richly as thousands more letters were got through the hardwork of volunteers who collected these letters. As pointed by paskal work is in progress on the campaign and more stuff is getting done.
May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.
If you really think you can get someone like Aman Kapoor - who visited DC 18 times last year spending 60k of his personal money - by paying a few extra bucks, be my guest!
IV is a volunteer organization. Its strength is volunteers who believe in the cause and ready to spend their efforts and money for a cause that benefits not only them, but also the slackers who do nothing and sit on the forum badmouthing/belittling those who do.
A paid person will not do all that for you for the few extra bucks you are ready to pay.
I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.
After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.
Don't judge IV by what's posted on the forum. IV is more than a forum. A lot of action happens off the forum (in fact most of it). Like Morpheus told Neo in Matrix, 'No one can tell you what it is. You need to experience it yourself'. Participating actively in IV activities through state chapters is the only way to know all IV activities happening.
It will never get posted here in a forum full of anti-immigrant trolls. IV is transparent in its finances as it gets audited as a tax-exempt organization and held accountable to its expenses. Transparency is bi-directional. IV expects its members seeking updates to be transparent too (by providing complete contact details and valid E-mail ids). When a large number of members aren't transparent themselves, asking IV to be transparent is a moot point.
Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.
Sorry to be blunt here. IVs aim is to motivate members to participate in the activities and achieve the goal. Keeping spirits high for everyone is not a part of the deal.
Creation of such a value-added paid membership was discussed earlier. Most of the IV members don't want it. So it didn't happen.
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Probably should have spent a lil more time on it but oh well.
Probably should have spent a lil more time on it but oh well.
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bugsbunny
03-29 04:50 PM
@vj i would surely unmask him here , gimme another 10-15 days i will reveal everything about him pal , dont worry.
@bugsbunny i paid about $4200 for the process , he said some attorney fees and stuff
Does someone have an experience of application process, so that i send in the right papers, before leaving here. i mean the set of documents to send to DOL, so that i do not miss out on something important which could nail him to the maximum
Do you have a copy of the H1B application?
It should show a lot of details about the employer and also as to who prepared the forms(attorney info if there is one)
As i said if the company itself has done the work themselves with a full time attorney...then the company is fully liable...if the company has hired outside attorney...the company is still liable...but the outside attorney would also be liable for building fake cases.
There is also a law that if the H1B employer has terminated your services before the estimated time your service was required then the employer has to pay you the transportation costs for your return home.
Please read the following articles for information on the H1B process
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas for Temporary Professional Workers (http://murthy.com/news/UDtempro.html)
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas (Part II) � Wage and Record Keeping Reqs (http://murthy.com/news/UDrecreq.html)
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas (Part III) � 6-year Limit, Portability, Etc (http://murthy.com/news/UDh1iii.html)
@bugsbunny i paid about $4200 for the process , he said some attorney fees and stuff
Does someone have an experience of application process, so that i send in the right papers, before leaving here. i mean the set of documents to send to DOL, so that i do not miss out on something important which could nail him to the maximum
Do you have a copy of the H1B application?
It should show a lot of details about the employer and also as to who prepared the forms(attorney info if there is one)
As i said if the company itself has done the work themselves with a full time attorney...then the company is fully liable...if the company has hired outside attorney...the company is still liable...but the outside attorney would also be liable for building fake cases.
There is also a law that if the H1B employer has terminated your services before the estimated time your service was required then the employer has to pay you the transportation costs for your return home.
Please read the following articles for information on the H1B process
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas for Temporary Professional Workers (http://murthy.com/news/UDtempro.html)
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas (Part II) � Wage and Record Keeping Reqs (http://murthy.com/news/UDrecreq.html)
MurthyDotCom : Overview : H1B Visas (Part III) � 6-year Limit, Portability, Etc (http://murthy.com/news/UDh1iii.html)
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we_can
02-05 05:21 PM
I do not agree with the premise that 'IV agenda does not have any benefit for H-4 problem'. Once the larger issue of retrogression is solved, it will solve the H-4 problem also. As a matter of fact, me and a lot of active members are interested in the H-4 issue that is directly affecting us. But I believe that addressing the core of the problem here is what is necessary and that is what IV is pursuing.
we_can
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
we_can
I am not fighting but YES, my reason to join IV was to find justice to the H-4 not being able to work when L-1 spouses and Agjob spouses (I read this a year ago) could. Although no promises were made from IV, I was surprised today since nothing was ever said regarding no interest in the H-4 cause when many discussions were in place. Here people contribute for their own benefits, I was here for the H-4s, that is why I transcribed part of the conference calls too, so I was somehow a contributor to a cause that doesn't represnt my interests, but I know it represents the interests of the unmarried folks, or married to IT 'spouses' folks, so for this folks the fight for better legal provisions still on, good luck to you!.
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25 minutes lunch now, after lunch hope they will discuss.
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vdlrao
11-05 10:40 PM
Not only H1B reform we need G.C process reform also.
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laksmi
07-02 03:50 PM
USCIS should produce a rule saying that if they are x number of employees, then all the employees should have a company email id as mandatory, In that case they will be no issue at all, every thing will be clear and accurate to one and all in the company with any issue.
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mallu
11-05 10:18 PM
No LUD since Jan 2007 on I-485 application.
No LUD since Aug.2006 on I-485 . Who can beat me on this.
No LUD since Aug.2006 on I-485 . Who can beat me on this.
chanduv23
05-24 12:58 PM
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199701809
sri1309
12-17 08:24 AM
Folks - this campaign is endorsed by IV core. This is a very important campaign moving forward with the new president.
This thread always remains on top to get more visibility. Please send your stories and also urge everyone you know to send their stories
Chandu,
I am not sure if you are moderator, if so, we request you have it as an IV action item in home page. Having been with this excellant forum for more than a year now most of us DO know if IV core endorse it or not ..If you notice , you will see my last posts stil in the same page.. meaning reponse isnt that great. Please drive it more..
Thanks in advance..
This thread always remains on top to get more visibility. Please send your stories and also urge everyone you know to send their stories
Chandu,
I am not sure if you are moderator, if so, we request you have it as an IV action item in home page. Having been with this excellant forum for more than a year now most of us DO know if IV core endorse it or not ..If you notice , you will see my last posts stil in the same page.. meaning reponse isnt that great. Please drive it more..
Thanks in advance..
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