mrane1
09-26 03:01 AM
I received an RFE from NSE on Sep 2nd week asking me to prove that I have 5 years of experience after completion of degree.
Country: India
Date of Joining with current employer : Jan 2006.
PERM Filing/ Approval Date: Aug 2006.
I-485/ EAD filing Date: July 2007.
I-140 RFE received date: Sep 2007.
The RFE reads as follows.
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"Please submit evidence which establishes that the beneficiary had at least five years of experience as a software engineer after receiving his bachelor's degree but prior to August XX, 2006. Since your evidence does not indicate that the beneficiary received his bachelor's degree until 2002, this does not appear possible.
If the beneficiary received a degree prior to 2002, please submit a copy of that degree. A certificate that he had completed a coursework for a degree is not a degree."
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This is my history.
I did my 4-year Bachelor's of Technology in Mechanical Engineering in Dec 2000. My diploma (degree certificate) has two dates on it. December 2000 and June 2002. The December 2000 date is mentioned in Big letters as its the completion of my final semester exams. The June 2002 date was due to taking one of the supplementary exam of one subject of one of my previous semester .
I was hired by a software company in December 2000 and I have work experience ( as well as experience letter with 40 hours a week) as a software engineer from Dec 2000.
But now according to the RFE, INS is not ready to count that experience from Dec 2000. I finished my school in Dec 2000 and never had to go to the school except for one exam in 2001 and another one in June 2002. (In my university, examinations are conducted only once in 8 months). I checked my transcripts that were sent along with I-140 and it has the dates of 2001 and June 2002 due to the examination. Its present at the bottom along with Main date of Dec 2000.
I had placed the course completion certificate from my college along with the I-140 application and it looks like INS don't take that info consideration.
I am in deep trouble now. Your help is greatly appreciated. My attorney didn't find these issues before filing the labor certification on EB2.
The newspaper ad given before filing the labor certification asks for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience.
Please help me by sharing your experience(s) as well as comments. I will really appreciate your time and effort.
My only concern is to save my labor certification so that I can keep my I-140. I read in some threads that INS gave an option to convert the case as EB3. I would have been very happy if I had received that option. I requested my attorney for EB3 conversion at this point of time. He said its not possible as conversion needs to qualify the beneficiary for both categories (EB2 as well as EB3). He added that the labor certification was done on EB2.
I have applied for my I-485/EAD in July 2007. The EAD is about to come but I have this biggest problem of I-140 RFE. If the I-140 is denied my wife's EAD will automatically get revoked which will stop her from working.
Some of my friends recommended to respond to the RFE, file an MTR if I-140 is denied and an appeal if MTR also doesn't work. They also suggested me to file a new PERM application as a backup. All this works as I don't have any plans to switch my employer till I receive my final green card. But my wife will be in trouble as she can't use the current EAD. An attorney friend of mine is saying that those actions (MTR/ Appeal) will only keep the labor and I-140 on hold/pending, but won't keep the EAD alive. Is there a way I can keep my EAD alive by those motions?
Is there any way I can get this RFE cleared and have my I-140 approved? Can I keep my EAD alive somehow
Wow your situation is indeed unfortunate! Its really your lawyers fault... he should have checked this and filed EB3 to begin with... or atleast given you an idea that something of this sort might happen at 140 stage, if you insisted on eb2... What was suggested by your friends seems to be the only logical step... and its highly unlikely that USCIS will budge from their stance... maybe other people might have better idea...
Country: India
Date of Joining with current employer : Jan 2006.
PERM Filing/ Approval Date: Aug 2006.
I-485/ EAD filing Date: July 2007.
I-140 RFE received date: Sep 2007.
The RFE reads as follows.
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"Please submit evidence which establishes that the beneficiary had at least five years of experience as a software engineer after receiving his bachelor's degree but prior to August XX, 2006. Since your evidence does not indicate that the beneficiary received his bachelor's degree until 2002, this does not appear possible.
If the beneficiary received a degree prior to 2002, please submit a copy of that degree. A certificate that he had completed a coursework for a degree is not a degree."
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This is my history.
I did my 4-year Bachelor's of Technology in Mechanical Engineering in Dec 2000. My diploma (degree certificate) has two dates on it. December 2000 and June 2002. The December 2000 date is mentioned in Big letters as its the completion of my final semester exams. The June 2002 date was due to taking one of the supplementary exam of one subject of one of my previous semester .
I was hired by a software company in December 2000 and I have work experience ( as well as experience letter with 40 hours a week) as a software engineer from Dec 2000.
But now according to the RFE, INS is not ready to count that experience from Dec 2000. I finished my school in Dec 2000 and never had to go to the school except for one exam in 2001 and another one in June 2002. (In my university, examinations are conducted only once in 8 months). I checked my transcripts that were sent along with I-140 and it has the dates of 2001 and June 2002 due to the examination. Its present at the bottom along with Main date of Dec 2000.
I had placed the course completion certificate from my college along with the I-140 application and it looks like INS don't take that info consideration.
I am in deep trouble now. Your help is greatly appreciated. My attorney didn't find these issues before filing the labor certification on EB2.
The newspaper ad given before filing the labor certification asks for Bachelors degree and 5 years of experience.
Please help me by sharing your experience(s) as well as comments. I will really appreciate your time and effort.
My only concern is to save my labor certification so that I can keep my I-140. I read in some threads that INS gave an option to convert the case as EB3. I would have been very happy if I had received that option. I requested my attorney for EB3 conversion at this point of time. He said its not possible as conversion needs to qualify the beneficiary for both categories (EB2 as well as EB3). He added that the labor certification was done on EB2.
I have applied for my I-485/EAD in July 2007. The EAD is about to come but I have this biggest problem of I-140 RFE. If the I-140 is denied my wife's EAD will automatically get revoked which will stop her from working.
Some of my friends recommended to respond to the RFE, file an MTR if I-140 is denied and an appeal if MTR also doesn't work. They also suggested me to file a new PERM application as a backup. All this works as I don't have any plans to switch my employer till I receive my final green card. But my wife will be in trouble as she can't use the current EAD. An attorney friend of mine is saying that those actions (MTR/ Appeal) will only keep the labor and I-140 on hold/pending, but won't keep the EAD alive. Is there a way I can keep my EAD alive by those motions?
Is there any way I can get this RFE cleared and have my I-140 approved? Can I keep my EAD alive somehow
Wow your situation is indeed unfortunate! Its really your lawyers fault... he should have checked this and filed EB3 to begin with... or atleast given you an idea that something of this sort might happen at 140 stage, if you insisted on eb2... What was suggested by your friends seems to be the only logical step... and its highly unlikely that USCIS will budge from their stance... maybe other people might have better idea...
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answers_seeker
02-19 02:09 PM
I got LUDs on 2/10 on both mine and my wife's 485. My wife got an RFE email on 02/13. I do not know what this means either...
Did you recieve the RFE yet ?What was it about. Mine is a similar case. We both have LUDs on 02/10 and my wife's 485 recieved an RFE email today.
Did you recieve the RFE yet ?What was it about. Mine is a similar case. We both have LUDs on 02/10 and my wife's 485 recieved an RFE email today.
clockwork
08-08 12:15 AM
Even if I back date my marriage (as advised) , How can I get my future wife to USA?. I cannot get her on depend status as my H1-B (I believe) got canceled on approval of GC.
Issues I see,
1. The back date of marriage must match to my stay at India.
2. I did not visit India in the last one year.
3. I applied my I-485 in the August 2008 time. So (I must mention my marriage and dependents in the application). Which I did not . So this does not work.
See the troubles I have now.
P.S: I did not want to cheat USA Immigration Dept. Not a good practice
Let me know if there are any guanine ways.
I dont have any better idea than what other ppl are suggesting.....But
If i were in your place, i would have arranged register marriage in july itself :) after seeing the august visa bulleting then apply for spouse I-485 on the 1st day of August 08. This solves 2 problems, the one currently u r facing and the other chance of applying I-485 for your spouse. Later, you cud have followed ritual marriage as arranged by your parents....
Best of luck.
Issues I see,
1. The back date of marriage must match to my stay at India.
2. I did not visit India in the last one year.
3. I applied my I-485 in the August 2008 time. So (I must mention my marriage and dependents in the application). Which I did not . So this does not work.
See the troubles I have now.
P.S: I did not want to cheat USA Immigration Dept. Not a good practice
Let me know if there are any guanine ways.
I dont have any better idea than what other ppl are suggesting.....But
If i were in your place, i would have arranged register marriage in july itself :) after seeing the august visa bulleting then apply for spouse I-485 on the 1st day of August 08. This solves 2 problems, the one currently u r facing and the other chance of applying I-485 for your spouse. Later, you cud have followed ritual marriage as arranged by your parents....
Best of luck.
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gchopes
12-07 12:25 PM
Tried everything. Infopass, Congressman, Ombusdsman. Still over 100 days and no movement on AP. Anybody in the same boat? AP applied in TSC.
texcan
09-10 02:28 PM
Requirements to change employer when GC is pending:
It is best to not to change to an employer offering you anything less than the wage rate specified in the GC labor certification. On the higher side, it is better not to take up a job that offers more than 4% more salary of that specified in the GC labor certification. It is hard to resist 20-30K higher salary, but one would have to resist the temptation for taking the job offering higher salary. Otherwise, there is a risk of USCIS denying the GC application.
USCIS doesn�t account for dollar appreciation or devaluation. USCIS also doesn�t account for annual inflation when calculating the wage rate. So even if your labor certification was applied in 2003, you still have to continue at the job with the salary specified in the GC labor certification. If GC application takes another 5-7 years, then you have to continue with the salary specified in GC labor certification application.
Hope this is useful.
One quick question about salary limitation. Where is this mentioned. I went through the following link posted on this thread earlier ( see below). It says clearly no restrictions on wage. Please suggest, why is this a issue.
Please understand, i am trying to learn from others experience and definaltely not contradicting any one here.
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDac21qa.html#8
Q) If I change jobs, does the new employer have to pay the wage stated on the labor certification? TOP
No. As explained by the INS in the June 2001 Interim Guidance Memo, the new job does not have to be at the same wage level, nor is there any requirement that the new position pay a rate equal to the "prevailing" wage. The only restrictions are that the pay must be sufficient to demonstrate that the person will be self-supporting and not become a "public charge."
It is best to not to change to an employer offering you anything less than the wage rate specified in the GC labor certification. On the higher side, it is better not to take up a job that offers more than 4% more salary of that specified in the GC labor certification. It is hard to resist 20-30K higher salary, but one would have to resist the temptation for taking the job offering higher salary. Otherwise, there is a risk of USCIS denying the GC application.
USCIS doesn�t account for dollar appreciation or devaluation. USCIS also doesn�t account for annual inflation when calculating the wage rate. So even if your labor certification was applied in 2003, you still have to continue at the job with the salary specified in the GC labor certification. If GC application takes another 5-7 years, then you have to continue with the salary specified in GC labor certification application.
Hope this is useful.
One quick question about salary limitation. Where is this mentioned. I went through the following link posted on this thread earlier ( see below). It says clearly no restrictions on wage. Please suggest, why is this a issue.
Please understand, i am trying to learn from others experience and definaltely not contradicting any one here.
http://www.murthy.com/news/UDac21qa.html#8
Q) If I change jobs, does the new employer have to pay the wage stated on the labor certification? TOP
No. As explained by the INS in the June 2001 Interim Guidance Memo, the new job does not have to be at the same wage level, nor is there any requirement that the new position pay a rate equal to the "prevailing" wage. The only restrictions are that the pay must be sufficient to demonstrate that the person will be self-supporting and not become a "public charge."
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srini1976
07-28 01:29 PM
Ignore it. Even I had the same problem. Goahead and certify.
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shana04
02-12 05:14 PM
Thanks a lot bro
LIN # is that the Reciept Number for I 140 if yes then the online status on that says "Application Type: I140, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR ALIEN WORKER
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On July 26, 2006, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I140 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR ALIEN WORKER. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
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but this got a soft LUD on 12/30/2007 but the message is the same as it was ever.
which is also a Answer to your Question 3.
But the only thing is my lawyer did not file any job offer letter while appling for my I 485 as i did not had any as i did mentioned we had a disagreement and the employer is not willing to give me any letter.
but my current employer is a best person to work with and he is ready to help me at any extend he will not mind doing anything which will help me getting my green card.
Please advice if this could be an issue not having the employer letter while filling the I 485.
Thanks
It does not make any sense to send a new offer letter with AC21 unless you know the right job title or job description.
you would have a safe bet once you know your job title and send a new offer letter with your current employer and AC21 letter.
I can help you if you need AC21 letter.
good luck
LIN # is that the Reciept Number for I 140 if yes then the online status on that says "Application Type: I140, IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR ALIEN WORKER
Current Status: Approval notice sent.
On July 26, 2006, we mailed you a notice that we have approved this I140 IMMIGRANT PETITION FOR ALIEN WORKER. Please follow any instructions on the notice. If you move before you receive the notice, call customer service.
"
but this got a soft LUD on 12/30/2007 but the message is the same as it was ever.
which is also a Answer to your Question 3.
But the only thing is my lawyer did not file any job offer letter while appling for my I 485 as i did not had any as i did mentioned we had a disagreement and the employer is not willing to give me any letter.
but my current employer is a best person to work with and he is ready to help me at any extend he will not mind doing anything which will help me getting my green card.
Please advice if this could be an issue not having the employer letter while filling the I 485.
Thanks
It does not make any sense to send a new offer letter with AC21 unless you know the right job title or job description.
you would have a safe bet once you know your job title and send a new offer letter with your current employer and AC21 letter.
I can help you if you need AC21 letter.
good luck
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vadik78
04-14 08:34 AM
so, now they have bumped up EB3 ROw, does that mean they will bump up EB2 or EB3 India next month? The fact that EB2 and EB3 India are stuck, does it mean these categories have already reached their per country annual limits?
Judging by the 1-year leap for RoW, the priority date for ROW should have being moving throughout the year. Maybe the same situation here - they just cannot count, and are going to waste some visas at the year-end.
Judging by the 1-year leap for RoW, the priority date for ROW should have being moving throughout the year. Maybe the same situation here - they just cannot count, and are going to waste some visas at the year-end.
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sina
12-20 12:57 PM
If someone has already spent 6 years on H1B can he/she convert to H4 status?
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maddipati1
07-27 08:18 PM
BTW, great thinking.. posting the link in advance
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EndlessWait
10-02 12:49 PM
I am not sure what a_to_z_Gc is looking for more details, but I would like to now if your case was transferred from NSC to CSC and back.
Those whose cases have transferred back to NSC have not received the FP notices. I would like to know if your case was transferred back to NSC.
when did u get ur reciept?
Those whose cases have transferred back to NSC have not received the FP notices. I would like to know if your case was transferred back to NSC.
when did u get ur reciept?
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solaris27
10-09 07:53 PM
you can directly go to USCIS website and take printout of your approved I-140.
It will not have all informaion but more then enough to change job .
It will not have all informaion but more then enough to change job .
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lifestrikes
06-17 05:22 PM
Here is link to an article from American Public Media
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/05/07/pm_h1b_limbo/
You can also listen to the audio version of the story.
Since they have listed the name of affected person, it should be fairly easy to find them and request them to post their experience here.
http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/05/07/pm_h1b_limbo/
You can also listen to the audio version of the story.
Since they have listed the name of affected person, it should be fairly easy to find them and request them to post their experience here.
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isantem
07-29 01:56 PM
Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965)
Please look back at this country's immigration laws over the years. When Europeans were immigrating to in large numbers, they didn't have any issues with that. They never felt the need of country cap. When non-Europeans started immigrating in large numbers, america suddenly realizes she has to be "fair" to all countries in the world and fairer to whites in particular.
It is such a shame that this country covers up racism with "diversity" in this 21st century.
Probably you are right. But the issue is not the country limit!!!!!!!!
Take example EB3, how you think will look like EB3 on the next visa bulletin without country limits. EB-3 probably will be June 2002.:eek:
Please look back at this country's immigration laws over the years. When Europeans were immigrating to in large numbers, they didn't have any issues with that. They never felt the need of country cap. When non-Europeans started immigrating in large numbers, america suddenly realizes she has to be "fair" to all countries in the world and fairer to whites in particular.
It is such a shame that this country covers up racism with "diversity" in this 21st century.
Probably you are right. But the issue is not the country limit!!!!!!!!
Take example EB3, how you think will look like EB3 on the next visa bulletin without country limits. EB-3 probably will be June 2002.:eek:
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04-22 10:35 PM
Amen!!!
definitely ..and i am sure lot of people agree ..flowers, marching etc is much better ..but till we get to that point ..let us send emails / letters atleast ...something better than nothing !!
definitely ..and i am sure lot of people agree ..flowers, marching etc is much better ..but till we get to that point ..let us send emails / letters atleast ...something better than nothing !!
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VMH_GC
07-10 08:16 PM
I think we should brought up this to indian government and use government powers to pressure CNN in india to take up this matter with Mr. Turner.
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franklin
08-31 08:11 PM
I can help take some stuff - how much is there?
I would offer to carry the flag, but I have Carpal Tunnel, so it might not be a great idea :)
I would offer to carry the flag, but I have Carpal Tunnel, so it might not be a great idea :)
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ChainReaction
04-02 12:55 PM
sent both faxes #10 & 11 :)
lazycis
01-26 07:13 PM
This type of clause is to protect employer for one year. Usually, it is not only trainig cost, it is business also.
You can seek legal protection, complain USCIS and so on. When an employee joins contracts are for 12 months, when you work on niche technology, it will be confidentiality agreement for 2-3 years, and so on. Mostly they are goodwill agreements. If you have problem in signing for this 12 months, how would you be signing technology related agreements?
I have seen business to business relationship broken due to employee running away from clients location. In the begining, even if formal training is not there, clients do compromize to bring to speed. Most of the consultant placements are business to business chains.
Do you intend to break before 12 months?
I have signed for confidentiality contracts up to 5 years, and refused to sign, when wanted not to honour contract, thereby not working for those clients.
If possible avoid troubles otherwise, you already have several suggestions.
That's a totally different story. It's normal to have non-compete clause and it is enforceable, but even non-compete clause will be hard to enforce if it sets unreasonable conditions (i.e. prohibits working for a client for more than 6 months). Also, if you sign a contract, it does not mean you are obligated to fulfill it. If contract violates US laws, it's null and void (i.e. you can sign a clause that you will be a slave for company's boss, but it does not mean company's boss can enforce it in court).
You can seek legal protection, complain USCIS and so on. When an employee joins contracts are for 12 months, when you work on niche technology, it will be confidentiality agreement for 2-3 years, and so on. Mostly they are goodwill agreements. If you have problem in signing for this 12 months, how would you be signing technology related agreements?
I have seen business to business relationship broken due to employee running away from clients location. In the begining, even if formal training is not there, clients do compromize to bring to speed. Most of the consultant placements are business to business chains.
Do you intend to break before 12 months?
I have signed for confidentiality contracts up to 5 years, and refused to sign, when wanted not to honour contract, thereby not working for those clients.
If possible avoid troubles otherwise, you already have several suggestions.
That's a totally different story. It's normal to have non-compete clause and it is enforceable, but even non-compete clause will be hard to enforce if it sets unreasonable conditions (i.e. prohibits working for a client for more than 6 months). Also, if you sign a contract, it does not mean you are obligated to fulfill it. If contract violates US laws, it's null and void (i.e. you can sign a clause that you will be a slave for company's boss, but it does not mean company's boss can enforce it in court).
seratbabu
02-18 11:50 PM
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question 1) did both you and your spouse's I485 cases receive the "pending at the location it was transfered to"?
question 2) did both you and your spouses I485 cases receive RFE?
question 3) did both you and your spouses case have an LUD after RFE?
have you guys received the RFE notices and if yes, what is USCIS asking
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My 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17 and 02/18. My wife's 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17. My wife's 485 got a RFE on 02/13 - but still waiting for the actual RFE for the details.
My 485 Current Status: This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred.
My Wife's 485 Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
Does it come to me or to my attorney?
Thanks..
question 1) did both you and your spouse's I485 cases receive the "pending at the location it was transfered to"?
question 2) did both you and your spouses I485 cases receive RFE?
question 3) did both you and your spouses case have an LUD after RFE?
have you guys received the RFE notices and if yes, what is USCIS asking
[/QUOTE]
My 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17 and 02/18. My wife's 485 had LUDs on 02/10, 02/13, 02/17. My wife's 485 got a RFE on 02/13 - but still waiting for the actual RFE for the details.
My 485 Current Status: This case is now pending at the office to which it was transferred.
My Wife's 485 Current Status: Request for Additional Evidence Sent
Does it come to me or to my attorney?
Thanks..
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